Face 2 Face
Hotel Intercontinental,
Sydney, 23.02.05
The view from the 21st
floor of the hotel intercontinental is
straight out of an Australian tourist
brochure: Sydney Harbour Bridge to the
left, Opera House to the right; glistening
blue water in front, all under a canopy
of beautiful, untroubled sky. You could
stand at the window and stare for hours,
and indeed probably would if that
is, Duff McKagan, Slash and Dave Kushner
were about to walk through the door to
be interviewed by five lucky Australian
Kerrang! readers.
As Jenna Edwards (15), Paul Southwell
(33), Adam Morris (26), Laura Dewer (18
and 17-year-old Emma Cooper wait eagerly
for the Velvet Revolver trio in a plush
hotel suite the seconds seem to drag like
days. Having already had the location
of their interview changed, then pushed
back, they pace nervously around the room.
Then Jenna announces that its possible
shell start crying as soon as the
three make their entrance, which could
prove a little awkward.
Fortunately she doesnt but thats
probably because Slash and co immediately
put everyone at ease by cracking jokes
and, in Dave Kushners case, announcing
that he was forced out of bed at the ungodly
hour of 8:30 this morning to go to nearby
Manly Beach. As Slash lights up a cigarette
and an assistant brings him and Duff a
coffee each (black with one sugar for
Slash, black with sweetener for the bassist),
the trio sit back and steady themselves
for the first of the K! readers questions.
So thatll be talking about being
broke, the wisdom of Socrates and fighting
Vanilla Ice then
Adam: You started
out as underdogs so what do you consider
your finest achievement in Velvet Revolver?
Slash: Just getting the band together!
(laughs)
Duff: Just being a band and garnering
enough interest to be able to go out and
tour the world. Weve been touring
the album for a year and were going to
continue touring until probably August
or September.
Slash: Its our first record and
in the climate that the industry is in
now, the chances of selling enough copies
to tour the entire planet on your first
record are pretty slim. So that in itself
is great.
Paul: Dave, Im
under the impression that you were a touring
guitarist for Vanilla Ice. Is that right?
Dave: Ha Ha! Thats funny! Okay,
Ill tell you the story
Duff: Make it short will you, Dave?
Dave: Yeah. Ross Robinson, the
guy that produced Korn and Limp Bizkit
and all those bands, he approached me
because he had just produced a Vanilla
Ice record (1998s Hard to
Swallow). It was all heavy and he
used some of the players from Snot and
Puddle of Mudd and other people. I had
no money or anything and he said
You should check this out, I know it sounds
like a joke but check it out. The
record was really heavy and they needed
some touring guys for this little US thing,
and I talked my buddy into it who plays
with Weezer now, and we just said Fuck
it, lets go.
Paul: Whats
Vanilla Ice like?
Dave: He's a jerk! He stiffed me for
money and I almost got into a fistfight
with him on the bus
Duff: You should have kicked his
ass.
Dave: I dont remember why
we didnt actually fight. We were
about to. The reason I played with him
was because I couldnt get a job
anywhere else and I needed to pay my bills.
I could sleep at night knowing I wasnt
sponging off my dad for even more money
and I wasnt having to worry about
that kind of guilt. When I was in this
band and I had no money, these guys lent
me money
Slash: And now we want it back!
Emma: Scott Weiland
once said, True rock n roll
is a marriage of sex and violence.
Do you think that, with the rise of sex
and violence in the news and on video
games, societys become desensitised
and, consequently rock n rolls
lost its edge?
Slash: Thats a good question.
Duff: Yeah, that very well put.
I think what lost its edge is the industry
itself. There was a time when the industry
was entirely privately held companies;
like Geffen records was owned by David
Geffen, and A&M was owned by Herb
Alpert. And these small labels would develop
bands like U2 it took them four
albums to develop. But all these companies
were bought out and then they became publicly
held companies with stock holders who
wanted to see a bottom line, so along
came the boyband syndrome and all that
shit. But it sold so the stock holders
were happy, everybody else was happy and
rock n roll subsequently lost its
edge. There was no audience for it, so
it went underground. And that was a good
place for it.
Slash: The other thing is rock
n roll is all about risk. And when
people stop taking chances you just get
a very diluted music scene that is very
safe and predictable.
Duff: But it put your comment into
a relative term, you asked is everybody
so desensitised to it now. Well Socrates
said Whats wrong with our
kids today? And thats 4000
years ago. And were still asking
the same thing.
Jenna: Youve
all been in the music industry since the
80s and youre still so dedicated
and passionate about what you do. What
do you love about music and where do you
find your inspiration?
Duff: Playing
music is amazing. I discover new things
about it all the time.
Slash: I think its a gift.
Ive always loved music since I was
born; I always knew what I liked and I
didnt like. I was really into the
stuff I liked. And when I started playing
guitar I wasnt like Oh, I
want to be a rockstar.
Dave: I think were just fans
like you guys. You find something in music
and it affects you emotionally in some
way that it doesnt affect other
people. Were just lucky enough to
have some talent thrown in that drives
us.
Slash: First and foremost were
rock fans, and thats what got us
going we locked onto something
related to it and off we went. The kind
of band that you want to see is the kind
of band you try to put together.
Paul: When you first
started Velvet Revolver you were jamming
with Joshua Todd from Buckcherry. Why
didnt that work out?
Duff: He did the benefit show that
we did for Randy Castillo (former Ozzy
Osborne/Motley Crue drummer who died of
cancer in 2002). We played for three or
four weeks with him and Keith (Nelson,
Buckcherry guitarist). We were just writing
songs. And after that we decided it wasnt
working out, he wasnt the guy. We
really tried to make him the guy, and
hes a great singer, great work ethic,
nothing bad to say about him. But his
range and where we wanted to go did not
match.
Slash: Before this band started
I was in the process of starting another
band, and I was scouting singers. When
Randy died and Matt (Sorum) and I hooked
up to play this fundraiser, we called
Duff, and it was supposed to be a one-off
thing where we were going to get together
and jam. I needed a guitarist and singer
for it, and I knew that Buckcherry was
disbanded so I called Keith. In the back
of my mind I was scoping Josh out. We
had such a great time, Duff and Matt and
myself just totally locked in, we tried
to work with the Buckcherry guys, but
it was a different level of
something.
Duff: We had this imaginary benchmark
that we knew was there and we could attain
it
we didnt know how we were
going to attain it, but we found Dave,
and that was another part of the equation.
And then we finally got Scott.
Adam: What advice
can you give to up and coming bands?
Duff: Do what you believe in. Dont
cave in to something thats trendy,
do whats true to your heart.
Dave: You have to like yourself
at the end of the day and you have to
have integrity. Even when youve
played with Vanilla Ice